Mark Woodgate’s reply to Jarel

23 Dec 2010


(In response to Jarel’s message regarding Mark Woodgate’s testimony and resignation from the Raelian Movement)

On Dec 1st 2010 I sent my resignation and testimony to the Raelians of Oceania. The response? Overwhelming support and gratitude that I had chosen to share my findings. I also learned that many of these people had their own doubts concerning Rael’s authenticity.

As anticipated, the Raelian guide for Oceania, Jarel Aymonier, replied to my testimony to defend Rael and the Movement of which he has been part for more than 30 years.

Given the nature of Jarel’s reply and his attempt to paint me as a negative and frustrated ex-Raelian, it was necessary to respond.

(Note: I have always had the utmost respect and admiration for Jarel. He is very passionate man, dedicated to his role as Continental guide, and has always defended the Movement for what he believes to be true)

Many people commented that the style of Jarel’s replies confirmed what I wrote in my testimony, namely that he would say I had succumbed to negativity and that Raelians should not have contact with me at all…

Jarel wrote:

“If you read Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr you will end up with less love and more hatred towards RAEL and the Raelians, and you may end up like Mark. So preserve yourself from any negative influence and especially from the one of the frustrated ex raelians that will bring you further away from love and wisdom. I recommend to avoid all contact as negativity is contagious”

And in regard to Jean-Denis, Jarel wrote:

“If you choose to listen to Jean-Denis you will shape your mind with bullshit or hatred towards RAEL and Raelians and you end up thinking bullshit and leaving the movement”

Jarel is trying to paint me as a negative person who is full of hatred. (The Raelians who know me well will quickly realise that this couldn’t be any further from the truth) As predicted, Jarel stamps his authority by recommending that Raelians avoid all contact with me.

My reasons for going public and revealing my findings have nothing to do with any hatred toward Rael and the Raelians whatsoever – this is pure propaganda. On the contrary: It was done out of genuine concern for the Raelians who have been a huge part of my life for the last 16 years.

After extensive investigation into the Raelian Movement I concluded that Raelians are part of a very clever and well perpetrated hoax. Given that the Raelian Movement also has many positive aspects – namely the teachings of self development and meditation, I was faced with a ‘dilemma’ as to whether I would reveal my findings.

This ‘dilemma’ was easily resolved by asking myself the question, “As a Raelian, would I prefer to go through life completely ignorant of these findings and continue to devote my time and money to a ‘dream’ based on a lie? Or would I prefer to know the truth, to contribute in other ways to humanity and continue on the path of self development?”

I chose the latter because it would have been morally and ethically wrong to remain silent and quite simply, because this information is too important NOT to share.

Why is Jarel so quick to judge Jean-Denis? Has his perception of what really happened been tainted by Rael?

And why do so many Raelians believe that he was expelled from the Movement, especially when there is ample evidence that Jean-Denis actually resigned?

Jarel says:

“As for Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr, he has been expelled from the movement by the council of the wise because as far as I remember he was abusing his position as a Guide. So Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr didn’t leave the movement because RAEL told him he lied. He was expelled.
I remember RAEL saying to the council of the wise to use clemency towards Jean-Denis in regard to his great contribution to the movement.

So on one side you have the Maitreya RAEL with all the wisdom and the insight we know him and Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr, an ex Raelian who has been expelled from the structure for having taken advantage of some of us.”

Many Raelians, and in particular the guides, have been told by Rael that Jean-Denis was expelled from the Movement in 1990.

Case in point:

I contacted a prominent Canadian guide who has been a part of the Raelian structure since 1980.

Her reply in regard to Jean-Denis’ departure from the Movement is as follows:

“I was aware when this case happened with Jean-Denis St-Cyr in 1990. He had financial problem at that time, and he took advantage of his position to take money from the movement. The Wise Council wanted to meet him and see how they could help him, but he refused to go, so he was expelled (of course Jean-Denis said he quits). The Prophet always told him even many years after, if he reimbursed the money he stole he will find out his same position.”

And in a private email Jarel sent me, he wrote:

What I know is that there was a council of the wise regarding Jean-Denis taking money from the movement or Raelians. I don’t remember exactly but there was an abuse of power.
I don’t know if his resignation happened while he was going through the council of the wise (which is a painful and humiliating thing to go through for a Raelian) or after. But I would bet it is connected.
He must have been demoted and/or expelled for a certain period of time. Or maybe his resignation cut short the sentence. But what I am quite sure of is the synchronicity of the timing of going through the council and his resignation (during or soon after is not so important after all). So to say he resigned and was not expelled is a bit dubious. He could have resigned to avoid the humiliation of having been demasked as a thief.

The Guides have been told by Rael that Jean-Denis stole money, that the council of the wise convened and he was expelled.

Or could it be that this version of events is nothing more than a complete fabrication?

Jean-Denis is very clear about what happened and it is nothing like the ‘official’ version of the Guides.


Here are some images that prove Jean-Denis resigned and was not told to leave.

(Also note the cover of the Raelian magazine, where it clearly states “Resignation of the National Guide!”)

Jean-Denis gave his resignation on March 20th, 1990 in a letter that he addressed to Rael and the Canadian guides of that time. (It should also be noted Jean-Denis possesses a handwritten letter that Rael addressed to him dated April 17th, 1990 from Tokyo regarding the subject of his resignation)

This evidence should make each and every Raelian question:
Rael’s sincerity and authenticityJarel’s authority and credibility

Nb: Some Raelians have asked whether I suspect that Jarel is a part of the deception? Intuitively, I would say no. (Jarel’s father was the 1st Raelian and financed the launch of Rael’s first book)
At the age of 18 Jarel’s father gave Rael’s book to Jarel to read and for over 30 years Jarel has devoted himself to the Raelian Movement. Jarel’s words, actions and level of commitment, is indicative of someone who trusts Rael without question and who has lost his sense of objectivity)

More info about Jean-Denis resignation can be found at:

Jarel admits that in 1984 Rael did in fact tell Jean-Denis that he lied about meeting the Elohim, but he states there could be adequate reasons for his lie…

Jarel says:

“RAEL said many times over that he is telling the truth and has told Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr once that he was lying about his encounter. RAEL told Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr at the time of his deep depression in 1984 when being confronted with so many obstacles he wanted to renounce his mission as a prophet. He cut his hair and disappeared from the movement for a few months wanting to give it all up. I can easily understand why he could have told Jean-Denis he never had an encounter. He wanted to be Claude Vorilhon again and not RAEL. A bit like the prophet Jonas who also didn’t want to do what Yahweh asked him to.
Another explanation could be to test Jean-Denis Saint-Cyr of his fidelity to the messages as he could have been looking for a possible replacement.”

Jarel also says:

“RAEL could in his depression have purposely lied to escape his mission. What I know is when RAEL was back and out of depression he has repeated again and again he was telling the truth…”

Until Jarel’s email, most of us had heard or had been told that Jean-Denis was lying about Rael’s confession. The guides always stated that Rael never confessed at all, but now Jarel, a Continental Guide who has been a part of the Movement for many years, has stated that Rael might have confessed after all!

As I mentioned in my testimony, Jean-Denis describes in great detail the actual events that took place in 1984 in his book, “Confessions of Rael.”

For those Raelians who speculate that this was a yet another ‘test’ invented by Rael or the Elohim, it should be made clear that at no point did Rael ever state to Jean-Denis that it was in fact, a test! The hallmark of an authentic Raelian test (such as the one I was subjected to when I first joined the Raelian structure and to which many other Raelians can attest) is that the subject is ALWAYS told that they passed OR failed the test.

Moreover, in moments of weakness and emotional turmoil, Rael confided in Jean-Denis more than once that he never met the Elohim and he had made the whole thing up.

Jarel also states:

Mark doesn’t know Rael’s side of the story what he meant and why, RAEL should be the first one Mark should have turned to in his investigation or one of RAELS assistants. RAEL could in his depression have purposely lied to escape his mission. What I know is when RAEL was back and out of depression he has repeated again and again he was telling the truth. So what to believe? I guess it depends very much of what you want to believe…

This statement from Jarel clearly demonstrates the extent of his indoctrination and that he is unwilling to question anyone other than Rael’s version of events.

This is made very obvious with statements such as “Rael said he was telling the truth” and “Rael said that…” etc

If I had asked Rael about what really happened, or one of Rael’s assistants as Jarel suggests, is it really plausible that we would hear a different version of events? As the previous example demonstrates, that answer is clearly, “no.” The Guides version of events is always in perfect sync with what Rael has told them and therefore goes unquestioned.

Jean-Denis was Rael’s assistant from 1976 to 1990 and was closer to Rael than any other person at that time. Everything Jean-Denis witnessed was first hand, therefore it is Jean-Denis who is the most qualified person to answer.

Despite what Raelians have been led to believe (and want to believe) Jean-Denis has come forward with these revelations to protect those people who decide to follow Rael and who are unaware of the extent of Rael’s deception, lies and manipulation.

I recently hired an expert in lie detection to analyse some videos of Rael.

(Since Rael is a public figure, the expert I hired does not want to be associated with the Movement or any outcome of these findings, so this person has chosen to remain anonymous)

Here is a quick summary of the method used to detect deception and the results of the expert analysis of these videos.
As liars tend to rehearse their words, not their gestures, most people believe they will be held more accountable for what they say than their body language or facial expressions, so they put a lot of thought into how they want to tell the story, however 80% of communication is non verbal.
Interrogators and lie spotters look for ’emotional leakage’. Much of the time we’re well aware of how our face shows emotion, and we even work to control it. Someone who is preparing to lie may realise that they’ll be nervous while speaking and will therefore prepare to avoid showing their anxiety and will try to look relaxed.
The problem for liars is that much of the time we can’t anticipate our feelings – our emotions catch us by surprise. This is especially true when we’re asked or told something we haven’t prepared for.
Baseline videos of Rael were used to determine normal patterns of behaviour, speech rhythm, gestures and body language
Deception is not confirmed by one or two deceptive behaviours, but by clusters of behaviour.
In the well known video of Rael appearing on Irish television in 1988, when Rael speaks about his encounter, there were not 2 or 3 observations recorded that indicate deception…but 7 (!)
Video available at:
A marked increased in the rate of blinkingStutteringLicking lips and rolling tongueUnnatural stillness through the upper body when describing the alleged encounterAssymetrical expressions (symmetrical expressions are typical of truthful behaviour)Steepling of hands – conveying confidence and superiority.Using objects as a barrier and as a form of protection

Raelians will go to extraordinary lengths to defend the ‘last prophet’ and defend their truth. They justify to themselves that by ignoring the recent information they have passed yet another ‘test’ from the Elohim, that they are somehow superior, and those people who have left the Movement and /or dare to speak out, were obviously never true Raelians in the first place …
(Jean-Denis was well aware that Raelians would try to discredit him as this is part of the Raelian indoctrination)

Why has Jean-Denis finally chosen to speak out and expose the lies of Rael? In the words of Jean-Denis, “It is out of the question that such a secret disappears with him.”

What Constitutes Raelian Indoctrination?

Raelians believe they hold the absolute truth and that Rael is the messenger of the ElohimRaelians deeds and actions are motivated by the promise of eternal lifeRaelians believe they are always being tested by Rael and / or the ElohimRaelians justify that those who leave the Movement were never Raelian in the first place or that this is part of a ‘cleansing’ process so that the Movement remains pure.Raelians justify everything Rael says and does without question. (The belief is that Rael is the son of 25,000 year old Yahweh, therefore he must know things we cannot begin to comprehend)The belief that the 2002 cloning announcement was trueThe belief that even if the cloning announcement was a hoax (hoax is also another word for ‘lie’) that it served a higher purpose as it brought millions of dollars in free publicity to the Movement and helped to spread the Raelian message.The inability or desire to question anything that challenges the Raelian doctrineRaelians consider that ex Raelians and those people who speak out about against Rael and the Movement are ‘enemies’Raelians are asked to cease all contact with ex Raelians who are deemed to be “negative and frustrated.”Fanaticism – the most indoctrinated are prepared to defend Rael even if it means losing custody of their children, losing friends and family – and some are even prepared to die for the cause.The need to always be rightLoss of objectivityClosemindedness*Raelians think it impossible that they could be involved in a ‘cult’ in the traditional sense – this despite the fact that their leader and organisation bear all the hallmarks
* See the “Psychological Traits of a Cult Leader” and “What are the Characteristics of a Religious Cult” – listed below)

Concerning the books of Jean Sendy.

Jarel wrote in a private email:

“Keen to see if there is anything substantial against what is written in the messages – the so called contradictions by Sage were insignificant for me”

The “so called contradictions” that Sage pointed out in the Messages were “insignificant” for Jarel, but so far it still seems that Rael and the guides (including Jarel) have all avoided addressing these points! They brush them off as “insignificant” yet they have no good answers! What does this mean?

Those people who take the time to study Sendy’s books will quickly realise that Rael’s book has more in common with Jean Sendy’s books than ALL the other books ever written on this subject.


I will conclude by saying, all is NOT as we have been led to believe and I hope that you will do your own research. Raelians need to reconcile whether they can continue to support Rael and the Movement if and when they conclude that the entire foundation of the Movement has been built on a lie.

Above all, keep an open mind and do not be afraid to question. Raelians have every right to question their area managers, their guides, and especially Rael himself, regarding anything that seems a little ‘out of the ordinary.’ Whether it is an unusual comment made by Rael made in a Rael Science email, or the claim that Clonaid has produced 13 cloned babies – the time, energy and money that you commit to the Raelian Movement justifies an intelligent and verifiable answer.

Ps: Many people have asked me, “So…what do I believe now?”

My reply is simply this. The ancient astronaut theory (as proposed by Eric Von Daniken, Jean Sendy and many others) still holds the most weight for me and I consider this to be the most logical answer for our origins.

What has become very obvious to me is that some Raelians seem to think that those who have left the movement have also abandoned the idea that we could have been created by extraterrestrials!

One can still rationally conclude that intelligent design is the most probable option without believing that Rael is the prophet of the Elohim!

Psychological Traits of a Cult Leader

Personal charm and ability to use language and words with consummate skill to sway others to one’s own dogma. The potentially cultic leader is most usually a master at word usage, usually highly intelligent, often highly educated. He can manipulate words and contexts with such skill that the listener is either so confused by his rhetoric that he feels he must be the one who is deficient, or he can explain away contradictory behaviours or ideas so convincingly that one wonders why one ever doubted. He can turn a phrase to the degree that he can deliver a blistering and invalidating reprimand, and make the victim feel like it is done in genuine love and concern for the well-being of the victim. Word and language usage is the PRIMARY tool of the cultic leader, the goal being to emotionally and verbally destroy any critic that cannot be swayed to his way of thinking.Emotionally manipulative. While appearing to be sacrificial and loving, a cultic leader will manipulate the emotions of the victim to the place where anything he does or says is warranted and acceptable. Domination and humiliation are the goals of this manipulative behaviour. The emotionally manipulative leader strives to control his victims’ emotional responses to his behaviour and pronouncements, usually with the induction of guilt. In many religious leaders, this guilt induction and fear is almost always couched in the threat of loss of favour with Yahweh. Such leaders have no compunction about manipulating the dissident or questioning group member into believing that their salvation is at stake if they do not obey them in particular. By implying; that if you do not honour them, your salvation and standing with Yahweh is at stake. This is the stock in trade of the cult leader, guilt if you question, and threat of loss of salvation.The cultic leader has an inflated and grandiose sense of self. He styles himself as a prophet and apostle, Messiah’s personal representative on earth, a ruler of grand proportions. They may claim humility and a servant’s heart, but you will find most of their rhetoric obsessively concentrating on their own personal obtaining and maintenance of power and authority. Again, in religious abusive groups, the leaders tend to have a vision of being grand rulers and kings in the Resurrection, and desire, more than anything, to begin that totality in this life. They genuinely feel they are entitled to adoration and total obedience and control of all those in their sphere.Most cultic leaders have a tendency toward pathological lying. This is so unpleasant that many times, they completely convince themselves of their own lies. They can create and completely buy into a belief system about their own powers and abilities. These leaders have an inability to see or admit the truth even when caught in a lie….there are always extenuating circumstances and viable reasons for their deceits. Another side of this characteristic is to take something that is basically true and combine it with the fabrications to present an aura of credibility. While more subtle, it is, nevertheless, just another side of the deceit coin. They are not beyond plagiarism either! They will obtain other people’s writings, make some changes and then use their own name as the author of the stolen work!A defining characteristic of cult leaders is the fact that, no matter what pain or destruction their actions towards others has brought, there is absolutely no shame, remorse or guilt on their part for the consequences of their actions. If they even give it thought, it is only how to rearrange the perspective on events to present themselves as justified and right in their actions. This is frequently combined with the penchant for deceit discussed above in fabricating plausible sounding explanations for their actions. A frequent justification is…”Yahweh told me to…..Yahweh told me…..” for all true believers, there is always a reluctance to deny what may well have been instruction from the Master, and these cult leaders know this. No matter what pain they cause others, they have it worked out how it is the victims’ fault, some deficiency on their part that led to their own suffering. Never is it the cult leaders fault the pain and suffering he causes.The cultic leader tends to have very shallow emotions, very insecure. Despite the dearth of real, heartfelt, emotions, the cult leader with the gift of the gab frequently presents as eminently loving, gentle, kind and concerned, especially with those he is trying to develop control over. He presents his demands for control as being only in the very best interest of his victims and presents himself as sacrificially taking such control out of love and commitment. He can convince his followers that he loves them unconditionally, but that love, if experienced in truth at all, is conditional solely on his victims’ total acceptance of his domination.There is a tendency for this type of leader to be incredibly callous about the pain and distress of his victim, having no regard for the feelings of the victim. In religious groups with this type of leader, there is great emphasis placed on the unreliability of feelings and the necessity to overcome them, thereby invalidating everything the victim is suffering. A common ploy is for the victim to be told that his/her feelings are not valid because no one else feels that way. All the leader’s manipulative skills are utilized to exploit, control and gain power over the victim. Since the victims do not believe that the leader would intentionally hurt them, they rationalize, with the help of the leader, that the infliction of such pain is for their own good…or has some sort of “redemptive” purpose.The cultic leader’s sole goal is to gain and consolidate his control of his group, and increase the size of the said group. A frequent statement made by such leaders is….”Yahweh will provide….”.Donations from the group are encouraged, and in some groups, members are expected to donate everything they have to the group. Resources are rarely apportioned according to need, but according to the leader’s perception of need.Contempt of those who do not understand him is almost a defining characteristic of the cultic leader. He makes it plain that in his view, those who either cannot understand the complex and usually very esoteric belief system, are flawed spiritually and nowhere near as worthy as he and those who follow him are. He claims to have exclusive revelation to the truth, and is convinced that those who do not share this same revelation are; blinded to truth, in error, or overtly demonized. This leader does not conceive that there is anything at all wrong with him, that there is no possibility at all of error on his part. When confronted with obvious errors on his part, rage ensues and attacks on the credibility of the one voicing the errors are common tactics. This becomes a tool that the cult leader uses to control their members.An easy determinant of whether or not a group has a cultic and abusive leader is to observe his actions toward one who has left the group. If those who leave remain quiet, and do not voice their knowledge of the workings of the group, the leader concocts his stories about why the person left, and will leave it at that. If, however, the person speaks up or tries to impart that information, that person is immediately demonized. Character assassination, interspersed with a voiced concern for the escapee’s spiritual (or mental) health, follows. Since the facts coming out cannot be refuted, the leader resorts to ad hominem attacks and immediately counsels others in his sphere of influence not to have contact with the vocal escapee.
What are the Common Characteristics of a Religious Cult?

The group is focused on a charismatic living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
The group is preoccupied with making money.
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
Special techniques such as meditation, denunciation sessions and debilitating work routines are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel.
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which often causes conflict with the wider society.
The group’s leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group.
The leadership or style of teachings induces feelings of guilt. Members may feel inadequate as they try to live up to unrealistic expectations about what constitutes ‘appropriate’ behaviour in order to control them.
Members’ subservience to the group may cause them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.